Comments on: You cannot take that away from me http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/you-cannot-take-that-away-from-me/ Coding and the games industry Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:04:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: slicedlime http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/you-cannot-take-that-away-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-3 slicedlime Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:22:21 +0000 http://www.entertainingcode.com/?p=5#comment-3 I think the most interesting part of what you just said there is the first part about Fallout 3... you downloaded it. There can't be a clearer proof that the DRM simply doesn't work. I guess the whole discussion would feel much more relevant if we were talking about "should we allow people to pirate the game or should we put in this annoying DRM that works". I think the most interesting part of what you just said there is the first part about Fallout 3… you downloaded it. There can’t be a clearer proof that the DRM simply doesn’t work.

I guess the whole discussion would feel much more relevant if we were talking about “should we allow people to pirate the game or should we put in this annoying DRM that works”.

]]> By: Johan Svensson http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/you-cannot-take-that-away-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Johan Svensson Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:35:47 +0000 http://www.entertainingcode.com/?p=5#comment-2 We've just had a couple of DRM/piracy/copyright threads on PA, and... yeah, that turned into shouting matches where neither side would concede. DRM will always fail because it puts a lock on the product - but at the same time, they also include the key with the product, because otherwise the customer can't use it at all. So all it takes is one guy to find out where the key is hidden and how it works, and then the DRM crumbles. I freely admit that I downloaded Fallout 3. Played it for a bit, checked it out to see if it wasn't overhyped crap, had kinda fun, but was busy with other games (hello WoW and L4D), so I just deleted it. A week ago I saw that Webhallen had it on sale for 300 Swedebucks, so I decided to buy a legit version. Now I have to put up with a disc check every time I start the game. I paid money for a less useful copy. Once that annoys me enough I'll just grab a no-CD fix (not crack, _fix_) and strip that shit right out. As an interesting aside, I discovered that the actual disc check is done by the launcher... but not the actual game binary. So I can just start the game binary straight away and skip the entire disc check. Still, can't change video options outside of the launcher, but at least it's something. We’ve just had a couple of DRM/piracy/copyright threads on PA, and… yeah, that turned into shouting matches where neither side would concede.

DRM will always fail because it puts a lock on the product – but at the same time, they also include the key with the product, because otherwise the customer can’t use it at all. So all it takes is one guy to find out where the key is hidden and how it works, and then the DRM crumbles.

I freely admit that I downloaded Fallout 3. Played it for a bit, checked it out to see if it wasn’t overhyped crap, had kinda fun, but was busy with other games (hello WoW and L4D), so I just deleted it.

A week ago I saw that Webhallen had it on sale for 300 Swedebucks, so I decided to buy a legit version.

Now I have to put up with a disc check every time I start the game. I paid money for a less useful copy. Once that annoys me enough I’ll just grab a no-CD fix (not crack, _fix_) and strip that shit right out.

As an interesting aside, I discovered that the actual disc check is done by the launcher… but not the actual game binary. So I can just start the game binary straight away and skip the entire disc check. Still, can’t change video options outside of the launcher, but at least it’s something.

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