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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally relate to your feeling, had exactly the same story i must say.

And i was just gonna post something along the lines of what Curran said. Clojure is a great way to lisp if you plan to learn today. Also because it forces you on a functionnal style (immutable vars) where in CL or Scheme that is left to your concern, it&#039;s really easier, paradoxally.

The problem is , there is not much ressources about learning clojure yet since it&#039;s so young, but a few books and tutorials are in the writings

The big problem of Lisps before Clojure, has been good library bindings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally relate to your feeling, had exactly the same story i must say.</p>
<p>And i was just gonna post something along the lines of what Curran said. Clojure is a great way to lisp if you plan to learn today. Also because it forces you on a functionnal style (immutable vars) where in CL or Scheme that is left to your concern, it&#8217;s really easier, paradoxally.</p>
<p>The problem is , there is not much ressources about learning clojure yet since it&#8217;s so young, but a few books and tutorials are in the writings</p>
<p>The big problem of Lisps before Clojure, has been good library bindings</p>
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		<title>By: Curran</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/programming-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Curran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a very similar experience with learning Lisp - it&#039;s alien, and apparently great and wonderful, but how do you actually USE it? ...then in fact nobody does use it, because there is so much cruft...

Eventually I came upon Clojure, which is a modern day Lisp that compiles to Java bytecode. Then I changed my mind and continued to learn Lisp, and so far I am really pumped about it. There are indeed so many really cool aspects of the language that make you think differently about software, but like you said - you just need to START CODING and see for yourself.

I posted a tutorial here for learning Clojure:
http://lifeofaprogrammergeek.blogspot.com/2009/03/learning-clojure-and-emacs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a very similar experience with learning Lisp &#8211; it&#8217;s alien, and apparently great and wonderful, but how do you actually USE it? &#8230;then in fact nobody does use it, because there is so much cruft&#8230;</p>
<p>Eventually I came upon Clojure, which is a modern day Lisp that compiles to Java bytecode. Then I changed my mind and continued to learn Lisp, and so far I am really pumped about it. There are indeed so many really cool aspects of the language that make you think differently about software, but like you said &#8211; you just need to START CODING and see for yourself.</p>
<p>I posted a tutorial here for learning Clojure:<br />
<a href="http://lifeofaprogrammergeek.blogspot.com/2009/03/learning-clojure-and-emacs.html" rel="nofollow">http://lifeofaprogrammergeek.blogspot.com/2009/03/learning-clojure-and-emacs.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Protector one</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/programming-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Protector one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, probably COBOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, probably COBOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Jaric</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/programming-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Jaric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Language-That-Should-Not-Be-Named, the Forbidden-One, the Name-That-Should-Not-Be-Spoken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Language-That-Should-Not-Be-Named, the Forbidden-One, the Name-That-Should-Not-Be-Spoken.</p>
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		<title>By: slicedlime</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/programming-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>slicedlime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, no... I think it looks interesting, but haven&#039;t looked into it yet. I learnt another language and did other stuff instead -- specificly web programming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, no&#8230; I think it looks interesting, but haven&#8217;t looked into it yet. I learnt another language and did other stuff instead &#8212; specificly web programming.</p>
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		<title>By: Protector one</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/programming-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Protector one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So did you learn F#? What cool stuff did you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So did you learn F#? What cool stuff did you do?</p>
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