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	<title>Comments on: A Beta Release is Born</title>
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		<title>By: slicedlime</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/a-beta-release-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>slicedlime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feedback would benefit. The backend testing is by its nature under our control... we can tweak the backend to work properly without patching the beta. You noticed that with the fixes for the unlocks that kept going down at the very start of the beta.

The build would come from a new branch than the first beta, but would need the same kind of testing and stabilization as the first beta, which would be effort we could otherwise spend on testing for the final game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feedback would benefit. The backend testing is by its nature under our control&#8230; we can tweak the backend to work properly without patching the beta. You noticed that with the fixes for the unlocks that kept going down at the very start of the beta.</p>
<p>The build would come from a new branch than the first beta, but would need the same kind of testing and stabilization as the first beta, which would be effort we could otherwise spend on testing for the final game.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Bryce1</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/a-beta-release-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-336</link>
		<dc:creator>1Bryce1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the question remains would it even be worth it? You mentioned 3 things, of those wouldn&#039;t 2 of those(large-scale balance data and feedback) benefit greatly from a patched version? It would seem to me that the accuracy of the data correlates to the how close the build is to the final game. With so many bugs and missing features in this Beta how useful can the data be? Besides fixes we know just by tweaking little things like points and damage you can see big trend changes in gameplay that can adversely affect other things.

Also I wouldn&#039;t think that you would actually need work and patch the Beta build itself, but instead branch off another build of the final game that replaces the first stage of the beta. It could even be a total overwrite of the first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the question remains would it even be worth it? You mentioned 3 things, of those wouldn&#8217;t 2 of those(large-scale balance data and feedback) benefit greatly from a patched version? It would seem to me that the accuracy of the data correlates to the how close the build is to the final game. With so many bugs and missing features in this Beta how useful can the data be? Besides fixes we know just by tweaking little things like points and damage you can see big trend changes in gameplay that can adversely affect other things.</p>
<p>Also I wouldn&#8217;t think that you would actually need work and patch the Beta build itself, but instead branch off another build of the final game that replaces the first stage of the beta. It could even be a total overwrite of the first.</p>
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		<title>By: keyrat</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/a-beta-release-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-335</link>
		<dc:creator>keyrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;ll be better for players, if most bugs/annoyances are fixed, that when they buy the final game it actually feels like a better, evolved game. If you feed them every bugfix up to release it won&#039;t have the same effect.

I do need to say this while I&#039;m here: I would pay up to $15 extra in DLC to have a Wake Island conquest-mode map in this game :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll be better for players, if most bugs/annoyances are fixed, that when they buy the final game it actually feels like a better, evolved game. If you feed them every bugfix up to release it won&#8217;t have the same effect.</p>
<p>I do need to say this while I&#8217;m here: I would pay up to $15 extra in DLC to have a Wake Island conquest-mode map in this game <img src='http://www.entertainingcode.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Piano Dentist</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/a-beta-release-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>The Piano Dentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks

so long as the bugs still there at released are patched at some point I&#039;m happy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks</p>
<p>so long as the bugs still there at released are patched at some point I&#8217;m happy</p>
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		<title>By: hellbent oskool</title>
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		<dc:creator>hellbent oskool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the explanation, slicedlime =) It really puts me at ease knowing Dice listens to their customers/fans and interacting with us through the forums. Really means a lot to me.

Demize99, GordonVanDyke, repi and slicedlime. Your input is greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the explanation, slicedlime =) It really puts me at ease knowing Dice listens to their customers/fans and interacting with us through the forums. Really means a lot to me.</p>
<p>Demize99, GordonVanDyke, repi and slicedlime. Your input is greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: slicedlime</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/a-beta-release-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>slicedlime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either way works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: 1Bryce1</title>
		<link>http://www.entertainingcode.com/archives/a-beta-release-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>1Bryce1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. Can I comment here or should I keep it on the forums?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. Can I comment here or should I keep it on the forums?</p>
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		<title>By: Lepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds fine to me Slicedlime. It&#039;s good you explained this because we all know ppl been asking for a patch. We are most likely going to see these updates in the demo. The one things I do suggest is please fixed what is broken when the game releases. It&#039;s so frustrating to see people exploit some of the broken things in-game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds fine to me Slicedlime. It&#8217;s good you explained this because we all know ppl been asking for a patch. We are most likely going to see these updates in the demo. The one things I do suggest is please fixed what is broken when the game releases. It&#8217;s so frustrating to see people exploit some of the broken things in-game.</p>
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